NFLPA not winning the hearts and minds of fans

Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk wrote an article yesterday entitled NFL Alumni continue to pressure NFLPA.  It generated a lot of fan responses.   

If the NFLPA and DeMaurice Smith think they have the fans on their side, all they need to do is read these responses and it should bring them back to reality.  

Feel free to post your comments here at the Jeff Nixon Report regarding the article and the fan response. 

Here’s what the fans said in response to the article: 

chapnastier says: Mar 15, 2011 10:01 AM  

I love that entire paragraph that does its best to spin this back against the NFL even though De Maurice won’t meet with this guy. Since the NFLPA* didn’t accept an offer that would have given the alumni more money, I would think Smith owes 15 minutes of his time to sit down and explain why.

What a joke.

 kc4life7 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:07 AM

The NFLPA* is so full of it. Wasn’t one of Drew Brees’ “main concerns” about helping PAST, present, and future players? This just proves they have been lying the whole time. I don’t care what side your on, not letting someone like George Martin to directly speak to De Smith is ridiculous! 

scudbot says: Mar 15, 2011 10:09 AM

DeMaurice Smith made sure to pay emotional lip service to “our forefathers” when he spoke to the press after they abandoned negotiations while NFLPA reps were still negotiating. What a crock. Every NFL fan alive cares about the vets. Too bad the union doesn’t.

easyeddie says: Mar 15, 2011 10:15 AM

But union leaders like Mr. Wonderful Drew Brees insist they’re indebted to the former players. What a condescending, hypocritical joke the union has become — stuff like this and pressuring the draftees not to attend draft day. 

FinFan68 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:16 AM

Sounds to me like the NFLPA* should change its name to the National Football League CURRENT Players Association. These guys don’t care about the future success of the league as long as they get theirs right now. They also don’t care about the former players as demonstrated in the article. These players are all about “ME, ME, ME”. They conveniently forget that if not for the players that came before them and the owners that pay them exorbitant salaries, these current players would not be in the position they are in now. The league’s last offer was a concession and the union chose to ignore it. They have not made any realistic attempts to bargain in good faith. I hope they get their bubble popped in court. These players fail to understand that they are replaceable…just loke those great players that the current crop of ingrates replaced. The league will go on with or without them. As much as I love the game, it might be better to not have football until these self-absorbed children endure a substantial dose of reality. 

eagles83 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:17 AM

Smith is in this for himself. He’s alienating the very players he says he represents. This guy has had his own political agenda from day one and this is all part of his plan.

Screw you Smith.

krow101 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:18 AM

Whatever… if 15,000 fans decide to NOT buy that new team jersey then it’s $1,000,000 these greed-heads DON’T get.

Stop feeding the beast. 

flapjack1231 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:19 AM

I’m glad people are starting to realize what the decertified union was & will be again once a deal gets done…….a total sham.

northeastern31 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:20 AM

I hope this ends with unemployment for a one, DeMaurice Smith. Can this bozo run the NFL into the ground? and have the owners ever offered more than they did on friday? I think not.

angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 10:21 AM

Seeing as the NFLPA has done nothing to help out retired players benefits, why is it a shock to see that as an avenue to apply pressure. I have not heard one single word of former players in the crazy demands the NFLPA laid out when negotiations started. That’s pathetic and sad. Basically, the current players don’t give a flying flip about the past players, especially if they have to give up ANYTHING to help them. 

ditkasmustache says: Mar 15, 2011 10:23 AM

While Upshaw was perhaps too blunt, the union’s first priority is the dues paying currently employed players. Thats just the way it is. It is a fact that over many decades neither the league OR the union gave much attention to former players. In fact, it is one of the few things they were “on the same page” so to speak. Only when the brain injury issues became so prominent (think Mike Webter and Andre Waters) and Congress got involved did anything really improve for the Alumni. But the retired players ought to realize that taking sides in he current labor fight and getting in bed with the league is a bad move.

angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 10:23 AM

When DeMoron Smith said “our forefathers” he meant all the blood-sucking lawyers that made bank before him…totally not an NFL reference! 

geemoney713 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:25 AM

I think it’s the union’s job to worry about their predecessors. I believe the NFL doesn’t really have a responsibility to support them. They were paid for a job, and that job is done. Most companies don’t pay retirement anymore, so why would the NFL? If the current union wants a future union to take care of them when they’re in need, then they should help the NFL alumni now while they have a bargaining chip with the NFL.

 vetdana says: Mar 15, 2011 10:26 AM

The motives of NFL Alumni are pure….this is not rocket science…its all about money….they want a 60 % retirement benefit pay increase and the sooner a deal is struck, that includes this proposed provision, the sooner they get payed. Forget the politics….we want the mula. 

xxwhodatxx says: Mar 15, 2011 10:27 AM

Martin should know better than that, “KING”de Smith can’t give everyone an audience he’s got better things to do like count cash that he doesn’t deserve….

thebigolddog says: Mar 15, 2011 10:29 AM

“and the fact that the league has been supporting the idea of Congressional pressure to force Smith to meet with Martin….”

Can you show me where the NFL has said that? Or again, are you implying because the reported it on their news site they are “supporting the idea.?” 

brownsfn says: Mar 15, 2011 10:31 AM

WOW just WOW…Am I the only one who thinks Demaurice should be fired right this minute???

mick730 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:32 AM

There are a large number of truly horrible stories about what is happening to some of the older players from the 60′s, 70′s and 80′s. A lot of Packer fans I’m sure know of Willie Wood’s plight and how the Packers have stepped up to help him. There are others too. Remember Travis Williams? He didn’t have a very long career because of knee injuries, but if I’m not mistaken, he died alone and homeless. Lionel Aldridge suffered from severe mental disorders, lost his job, his family and his home. I don’t think Drew Brees, De Maurice Smith and the others really care about the older players. I think for them, it is a power thing, a money thing, and in some regards, a political, class and racial thing. Look at the owner’s offer from last Friday. It contained almost everything imaginable for the players plus the fact that no current veteran player would see a cut in his salary, yet because the players felt “frustrated and disrespected”, they walked away.

Question: What does Drew Brees have to be so angry about? He is paid a king’s ransom, yet he slams the very owner who pays him that king’s ransom. Kevin Mawae hasn’t played since 2009, has no skin in this game, and is also very bitter. Does he ever plan to get on with his life outside of the NFL? There are so many former players who never seem to do so. All the while they’re telling the world that the NFL is a horrible business, they never leave it. Good lord, between all the networks, the cable channels, local tv sports channels etc, there is a veritable army of ex NFL jocks who have nothing better to do than cling to the NFL; the league that gave them their start, made most of them very rich men, and continues to make them very rich men.

Most people and most fans are seeing the NFLPA leadership and their lawyers as a collection of spoiled, selfish, greedy, mean spirited and somewhat hateful people.

kellyb9 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:34 AM

This has nothing to do with the alumni. That’s just a bargaining chip (like the 18 game season). Something the NFLPA* could give up. This is about the 9 billion in annual revenue and who gets what. 

thebigolddog says: Mar 15, 2011 10:35 AM

PS = Listen to the Pete Kendell interview. He’s upfront that the only thing that matters is the money and to resolve that, the OWNERS have to PROVE they need more. The NFLPA will include revenue the OWNERS make in other businesses “because they own an NFL team” when determining how much an OWNER should make.

It’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. They have the owner/employee relationship completely backwards.

eagles83 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:38 AM

I agree. No one should be buying anything NFL related what so ever.

 angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 10:47 AM

Thumbs up if you think D-Smith is satan…thumbs down if you worship satan.

gridassassin says: Mar 15, 2011 10:48 AM

Good for George Martin. Dave Duerson was one of the board members on the NFLPA that denied players disability benefits. I wonder if he felt a bit guilty about denying players disability benefits.

Never forget the BS the NFLPA pulled:  http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3049213

vomitingliberals says: Mar 15, 2011 10:50 AM

The NFLPA cares only about the cash it can squeeze from the league today! It cares NOTHING for the past, and NOTHING for the future well being of this league we all love. George Martin and the NFL Alumni laid the foundation of the NFL’s success and they did so for a heck of a lot less in compensation, fame, and perks than today’s spoiled generation of entitlement minded talent!  The NFLPA should be ashamed of itself for treating these men, who made their big money lifestyle possible, with such arrogant disrespect and casual disregard. The current players should be ashamed of themselves too for not standing up for the guys who came before them! So if the league is willing to finally help the Alumni, then they should throw in with the owners! Why not? The modern talent cares nothing for past their contributions even if they give lip service to the opposite. After all, actions speak louder than words!

gridassassin says: Mar 15, 2011 10:52 AM

DeMaurice Smith = Modern Day Napoleon

scudbot says: Mar 15, 2011 10:53 AM

After I heard George Martin on SiriusXM talk about this year+ long outrage, I went over to the NFL Alumni Assn website and bought a t-shirt. I’ll never buy another piece of officially authorized NFL gear.

angrycorgi says: Mar 15, 2011 10:53 AM

It’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. They have the owner/employee relationship completely backwards.

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Totally agree. In the audited financials they wanted to know all the non-NFL related investments by the owners too. So if an owner did some real estate trading on the side, that income he generated would count as profit in their eyes. The stupidity and insanity on the players’ side is atrocious.

dryzzt23 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:57 AM

The Union wants….demands the books from the owners by claiming that owners and players are “partners”, therefore they want the financial numbers for “all total revenue” over and above just total football revenue.

Well if that is the case the why don’t the owners demand, from their “partners” the players, the financial numbers of the total endorsements, business profits, etc that the players make? After all, if these players were not playing in the NFL they would have NO endorsements, etc

It should go both ways….

dchuwo says: Mar 15, 2011 10:58 AM

Beautiful move by the NFL to let this out. Without question done to garner support by former players, and it makes Smith’s players who say they want to help former/retired players look like they are giving little more than lip service. As this has progressed it has become less about getting a deal done and more about Smith’s ego. Remember, skinny pigs get fed, fat pigs get slaughtered.

sakatak says: Mar 15, 2011 10:59 AM

Fire Smith, Hire Vincent

scudbot says: Mar 15, 2011 11:06 AM

The University of Maryland just booked D. Smith to be their graduation speaker. One of the dweebs involved in the selection had this to say: “He is the only executive director of the NFL Players Association to have never played professional football. I think that shows the type of person and leader he is and the amount of support he’s generated.”

richc111 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:08 AM

Read below, this is from 2008: This is how the NFLPA values the retired players. Losers!

“EA Sports makes what can only be described as mountains of money from the Madden NFL series. An update is released for every console platform on a yearly basis, and the title continually sells in the millions. Now retired NFL players are coming forward with lawsuits claiming EA isn’t giving them the money they deserve for the use of their likeness and career information, and according to some damning internal communication, it appears as if the the NFL Players Association intentionally brokered a lower-than-market-value deal for retired players as a favor to the gaming giant.”

Patriot42 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:09 AM

Instead of joining the NFL before graduating from college those veterans that took that chance are no better off then the average guy on the street that made bad decisions and are on the street. The owners owe them nothing.

jerseydevil856 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:09 AM

FinFan68 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:16 AM

These players fail to understand that they are replaceable…just loke those great players that the current crop of ingrates replaced. The league will go on with or without them. As much as I love the game, it might be better to not have football until these self-absorbed children endure a substantial dose of reality.

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I agree 100%, and came to the conclusion that the minute the owners opted out of the current CBA, it would be better to shelf the league for a season rather than continue on under the demands these players want. I love the game, but it’s completely ridiculous and out of hand.

broncobourque says: Mar 15, 2011 11:11 AM

I think it is terrible that the current players don’t care about alumni more but this is nothing new either. When the current alumni were players, they didn’t worry about alumni benefits or post career planning either. In most industries, if you want to have a good pension or good post career benefits, you need to negotiate to get them while you are still working, not count on the union giving up other things so you can have that money and those benefits when you are already retired.

myspaceyourface says: Mar 15, 2011 11:18 AM

It’s becoming more evident the players or their representation have any idea what they are doing.

They apparently don’t know how to negotiate. They are mad and want more, but they have no way of communicating it.

They must realize they will be retiring soon and the better the deal the work out for the retired players ultimately helps them in the end.

I think the NFLPA is a train wreck.

jamaltimore says: Mar 15, 2011 11:19 AM

Once again the Union is always looking out for it’s members. Union was quick to agree to rookie cap yet they tell the guys not to show up to the draft. Who’s looking out for who? They complain about the game and protecting the retiree’s yet they don’t take a meeting with leader of the retired players. Why?? Because it appears its the LEAGUE who is the one helping them not the very Union clowns like brees and mawae who say they are fighting for players former and future. The ego maniacs of today’s NFL care of no one but themselves.

Tell me how come we keep referring to the NFLPA if they no longer exist? Please make them go away, tear up all the contracts and say tryouts start in march for anyone intersted in playing in the NFL. Pay is based on performance and your ability to show up for work.

laeaglefan says: Mar 15, 2011 11:19 AM

No one should be surprised that the NFLPA* is taking such a stance toward former players. After all, the “What have you done for me lately?” attitude is apparently alive and well.

chatham10 says: Mar 15, 2011 11:26 AM

Mr.Smith keeps talking about former players and fans when he really does not care as long as he makes a name for himself. I still want to know if he is now making .67 cents paycheck like he said he would. Mr. Brees, I do know what your major was at Purdue but you seem to have all the answers regarding the CBA and how the union is pure and the owners are crooks. Please be careful what you say as it could come back and bite you.

shallowfan says: Mar 15, 2011 11:30 AM

If the NFLPA doesn’t want to talk to the alumni because they are close to the league and the nflpa wants to make sure they have “pure motives”…does it really matter if the alumni have “pure motives”? the nflpa took up the cause to fight for former players rights and the nfl offered to up coverage by 60% this year and the players said no thanks to the deal.

If the nflpa really cared about former players as much as they say they do perhaps they would’ve “split the difference” and gave up something like $320 mil to gain $82 mil this year for former players…after all if you really are looking out for the future of the game and the average career length is 3 years then the current players are going to be former players who need benefits very quickly…so why not give up something now to gain something that will help you and your family in the future when you most likely will need it more?

If i’m off base with my facts let me know…

eagles83 says: Mar 15, 2011 10:17 AM

Smith is in this for himself. He’s alienating the very players he says he represents. This guy has had his own political agenda from day one and this is all part of his plan.

Screw you Smith.

Kave Krew says: Mar 15, 2011 11:44 AM

The one thing I do agree with is that the alumni players sacrificed plenty (and got paid for it too dont forget) and helped the current players get to the luxurious point they experience now.

The current players should let the former players have a voice of some type in this saga as a courtesy thank you at minimum – but mostly to shut out the NFL and owners from gaining favor with them.

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About Jeff Nixon

Jeff was a first team consensus All-American from the University of Richmond in 1978. He is 7th in NCAA history with 23 career interceptions. Played for the Buffalo Bills 1979-1984. Led the team with 6 interceptions in Rookie Year. Holds Bills record for 4 takeaways in a single game - 3 interceptions and a fumble recovery. Tied Bills record with four consecutive games with an interception. After 5 knee surgeries Jeff retired from pro football in 1985. He worked for 13 years (1988-2000) as the Youth Bureau Director for Buffalo and Erie County. He has worked for the past 11 years as the Youth Employment Director for Buffalo. Plays guitar and was voted best R&B guitar player by Buffalo Nightlife Magazine in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

Posted on March 16, 2011, in NFL Alumni News. Bookmark the permalink. 4 Comments.

  1. I’ve reviewed many of the comments and shere many of the concerns of Retired NFL Players. But in looking back over the past year or so why is it that Roger Goodell definately in my opinion has more concern of the Health and Financial Security of Retired NFL Players than DeMaurice Smith. I suggest George Martin spend more time with Roger Goodell. This should be pointed out to active NFL Players because Life comes at you fast. Maybe if DeMaurice Smith had spent some time on an NFL Football field he would appreciate the needs of the NFL Retired Alumni. He has benefitted financially also as a result of the Retired NFL Players.

  2. HAY DeMaurice Smith MY DAD PLAYED FOR THE EAGLES IN THE EARLY 50s MAY BE YOU SHOULD GO VISIT HIM AND SEE IF HE COULD USE SOME HELP HIS NAME IS BUD SUTTON , HES 86 AND LIVES IN FLA. HES BEEN WAITING FOR HELP FROM THE NFLPA FOR MANY MANY YEARS AND IT NEVER HAPPENS, HE HAS HEALTH PROBLEMS AND ON A FIXED INCOME , NO WONDER MY DAD HAS A BAD TAST IN HIS MOUTH ABOUT THE NFLPA, I HOPE YOU CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT , JACK SUTTON REMENBER WITHOUT PLAYERS LIKE MY DAD THEIR WOULD BE NO NFL AND BILLIONS ,$$!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Looking back in history, when Rome burned Nero fiddled and when the French population was starving Marie Antoinette suggested they eat cake. Somehow I see a modern day corrolation with DeMaurice Smith’s seemingly disinterest in meeting with George Martin. Mr. Smith better realize that the plight of the retired player WILL NOT be swept under the carpet as in year’s past.

  4. LAST YEAR BREES STATED THAT RETIRED PLAYERS HAD THEIR CHANCE AND PLAYERS TODAY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO RETIRED PLAYERS. ALSO SMITH IS A MEMBER OF THE AFL CIO, SO WHAT DO YOU REALLY EXPECT FROM HIM.JUST LOOK AT THE THUGS THAT INVADED WISCONSIN! SORT OF MAKES ME SICK! THANKS TO ALL THE FANS OUT THERE FOR STANDING UP FOR THE RETIRED GUYS!

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